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Bart Ehrman vs. James White

Posted in Christianity, Debates by Paul Williams on February 3, 2011

what do you think?

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  1. maratsafin said, on February 4, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    salam alaikum Brother Paul

    I just finished listening to the debate and i must say the reason i feel james white wanted to debate dr bart ehrman was because he wanted it on his resume,there is no way he will want to debate him again after that performance. especially in the q&a james white was all over the place and honestly i didnt understand some of his questions and answers,as a supposed new testament scholar i really dont think he measures up well against ehrman or even agaisnt other chrisrtian nt scholars,probaly the reason why he never gets any academic recognition although there is no doubt he so badly wants it. he could provide no rebuttal to ehrmans questioning of why God didnt at least preserve one original manuscript, he couldnt answer if the author of p72 thought all that he was writing was scripture,well he tried to but it was really a mumbled response. you knew the debate was going the way of ehrmans when mr white tried to corner him about other world scriptures especially the Quran and if he thought they were preserved but that didnt work and you almost imagine the christians in the audience with palms in thier face. i also found it quite funny how he only knew the works of the english speaking nt scholars when bart erhman started naming the german and french ones he had no clue as to who they were. no wonder its took this long to get this debate out,i wonder how long before his disastrous performance against dr robert price comes out.

  2. madmanna said, on February 6, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Paul,

    Surely if his argument about the inevitability of the process of hand copying resulting in failures being copied in to the text is correct it must apply to all ancient documents, including the Quran. Why should the Quran be an exception to the rule? His argument is fatal for the Quran also is it not?

  3. maratsafin said, on February 7, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    so in a debate that is solely about the NT and if it misquotes jesus james white trying to save face in the cross -examination just throws in the Quran trying to startle dr ehrman,but why didnt he also mention the other world scriptures? it obvious why,when he debates many muslim scholars they use dr erhmans material to great effect and so mr white wanted erhman to say something negative about the Quran so he james white could use against the muslim but unfortunatley for mr white it did not work just as the rest of the debate didnt go his way even though as had admitted that he had prepared for this debate a year in advance and he thought erhman hadnt read any of his material,which erhman is not obliged to do because he is a recognised authority in this field. also madmanna the Quran your assertion is not fatal to the Quran although you indirectly insinuate that it is fatal for the NT.

  4. Paul Williams said, on February 7, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Salam madmanna

    in reply to your question, No, it doesn’t apply to the Qur’an as the revelation is primarily articulated as an oral recitation, memorised by countless companions of the prophet and literally millions of Muslims afterwards

    Paul

  5. papapound said, on February 10, 2011 at 2:27 am

    I am reading Misquoting Jesus right now and blogging it too. Ehrman raises many interesting points and I have learned from him in this book especially. I could not understand his simple approach to God’s Problem, however. That is another of his books. Jesus Interrupted (book title) is Bart interrupting Jesus.

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